Monday, June 16, 2008

third Jesus



I've just finished reading Deepak Chopra: The Third Jesus (Rider, 2008). I think he has a nice idea when he identifies the third Jesus as the one we receive and understand in contrast to the first or historical Jesus and the second Jesus of theological dogma. Chopra understands this third Jesus a little more specifically as a teacher wishing to show others the path to God-consciousness. So Jesus as Chopra's hero is clearly Chopra himself.

I found the endless talk of God-consciousness a little tedious by about a quarter of the way through the book but I plowed ahead to give the author his due. In the end he was not convincing, not to me. I think it comes down to a question of language. Does the expression "God-consciousness" really lead us to a greater clarity as to what Jesus was trying to teach? For me, no. It's too cumbersome an expression. I think I know Chopra better from reading the book but I don't believe I know Jesus better.

I would like to see what Chopra makes of Mohammad. I guess he'll get around to that sooner or later.


Labels: ,

Friday, May 02, 2008

common man comments

It often happens that some ordinary citizen comments on a website and provides a plain man's understanding of things esoteric. I've come across a couple of these lately so I'll start collecting them under "common-comments".

The first relates to a passage from the Mathnawi posted at the beliefnet.com message boards under Daily Muslim Wisdom.

To exalt oneself is to claim partnership with God.
Unless you have died and become living through Him,
you are an enemy seeking to hold the power.
But when you have come to live through God,
that which you have become is in truth He:
it is no longer copartnership, but absolute Unity.


Rumi: Mathnawi IV: 2765-2767
Version by Camille and Kabir Helminski


A reader, presumably a Muslim, inquires about this as follows:
JTornado1 9/3/2006

"But when you have come to live through God, that which you have become is in truth He: it is no longer copartnership, but absolute Unity." What does Rumi mean? Is is saying that one can become one with God in absolute Unity? Is that another way of saying one can become God? I don't understand what he is saying.


A second reader, apparently not a Muslim, replies as follows:
lightdancing 9/12/2006

Hello JTornado1,

I am not of your faith, but I like your question. Please understand that I am not offering anything other than my interpretation of a beautiful expression by Rumi.

If you find anything in this reply that helps you, well and good. If you find that nothing in this reply helps you, that is good too. Stay true to what works for you, what resonates within you.

Thanks so much for quoting this beautiful quote. I had no idea that Rumi was a part of the Muslim faith.

>To exalt oneself is to claim partnership with God.
>Unless you have died and become living through Him,
>you are an enemy seeking to hold the power.

To say that you, the person you think you are, is God, is to be blind to the truth of God. When you are blind to the truth of God, you will believe that whatever you dictate is God's word. You will not bring peace. You will not experience peace.

>But when you have come to live through God,
>that which you have become is in truth He:
>it is no longer copartnership, but absolute Unity.

When you come to realize that God is all there is, everything personal is surrendered. The love that is God is in your heart. You become a channel of God. God's love is expressed through you, bringing unity where there was once strife and division.

> Is is saying that one can become one with God in >absolute Unity? Is that another way of saying one can >become God? I don't understand what he is saying.

No, you don't become God. Instead, you become transparent and God shines through you. The you you believed yourself to be is only a shadow.

Blessings


I especially liked the idea that "you become transparent and God shines through you". It's a nice clear way of putting it.

The next comment I liked occurs at Gospel of Thomas Saying 22 which reads:

Jesus saw some infants who were being suckled. He said to his disciples: These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom. They said to him: If we then become children, shall we enter the kingdom? Jesus said to them: When you make the two one, and when you make the inside as the outside, and the outside as the inside, and the upper as the lower, and when you make the male and the female into a single one, so that the male is not male and the female not female, and when you make eyes in place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then shall you enter [the kingdom].


Gospel of Thomas Saying 22, trans Blatz


Under Visitor Comments occurs this simple gem:
Children do not use words, nor do they divide the world into parts. They do not know themselves to exist as a separate "me," using the body as a point of reference, and so the world does not exist as a separate "not me." For children, all is One. Words are convenient tools that describe reality, but they are not themselves part of the real world.
- nothing


This is a very straightforward understanding of the original unity we experience before our intellect develops discernment. The mystic vision returns to that original unity, apparently at will.


Labels: , ,

Wednesday, January 02, 2008

Jesus as the Sufis saw Him

Lifted aloft by angels:

sufi jesus

bookcover showing a Sufi image of Jesus



It is, of course, a very Islamized Jesus, complete with turban and macho moustache.


Labels: , ,

Sunday, December 30, 2007

peace through appeasement? nay, peace through war

Today, Salim Mansur has drawn my attention to the Swiss Roman Catholic theologian, Hans Küng. I've not read any of his many books but will look out for his writings when next at the library. For this post, I've relied on what is available on the internet, such as through wikipedia and reviews of his books. He appears to be a man of wide learning and of strong commitment, as well as having the personal gifts necessary to bring these into the public arena so as to make a real and practical impact on his world. I admire those qualities and cannot but be impressed.

küng

Hans Küng in 2005



Mansur opens with what he calls Küng's "theorem": "No peace among the nations without peace among the religions." As a mathematician myself, I find the use of this term puzzling since a theorem is something that can be formally proved. Küng's statement has more of the quality of a mantram or a slogan. The terms are ill-defined, making it impossible to assess the statement's real worth. It has an undeniable "feel good" ring to it and sets forth a worthy goal, but this is precisely what mantras and slogans merely amount to.

What has more substance for me is the simple fact that Mansur has bothered to read Küng's lengthy work on Islam and considered it worth a focus in his weekly article for the Toronto Sun. That demonstrates his continuing openness to the very dialogue that Küng recommends, albeit within the confines of a scholarly and somewhat prim conversation. As he himself reminds us, this openness is not too common among Muslims:

There is no Muslim scholar I can readily think of who might be mentioned in the same breath as Kung for engaging with similar devotion and humility in the study of Judaism and Christianity, while putting aside any expectation that Muslims should similarly engage in studying and learning from the faith-traditions nominally described as Eastern religions.

from Salim Mansur: Theologian finds peace path


The comparative study of religions has been very much a part of the scientific spirit of world discovery, perhaps more aptly described as a discovery of worlds since each faith-tradition is like a different world. There is indeed little evidence of a similar outgoing curiosity from within the Islamic world except, historically, among some of the Sufis.

When Rumi, for example, touches on the life of Jesus or of Job, it is clear that he has researched these earlier "prophets" through the actual scriptures of Judaism and Christianity.

In the case of Job, there is virtually no information about him in the Koran. For a Muslim to know Job's story, he must go to the Old Testament book and read there directly. It's clear that Rumi had done this or had an intimate acquaintance with those who had. He knew his Job and he knew his Jesus.

I've never encountered this kind of knowledgeability among other Muslim writers, whether past or present.

And if the stories told of his funeral are even partly true, then Rumi did achieve this rare understanding across religions that Küng and similar proponents of "interfaith dialogue" are seeking.

There is, however, a fatal flaw in the approach of well meaning men like Küng. It is an easy exercise to find parallels and similarities between religions. However, real "peace" is not possible unless the differences are honestly and forthrightly confronted rather than politely glossed over. This is a main criticism coming out of the following review of Küng's book on Islam:

Although well aware of questionable, or at least all too human, aspects of Muhammad’s life, Küng demands categorically that Christian theology and the Christian Churches should recognise “without reservation” that: “Through the Qur’an the Prophet gave countless people in his century and in the centuries that followed infinite inspiration, courage and power to make a new religious beginning: a move towards greater truth and deeper knowledge and a breakthrough towards enlivening and renewing traditional religion. Islam was the great help in life”.

But the Christian believer and theologian cannot but judge this statement about the person of Muhammad and of the Qur’an as unqualified and undifferentiated, not least in the light of the absolutely central Christian theological question at issue here: in the light of the life and teaching of the great biblical prophets Hosea, Jeremiah and Isaiah and especially and finally of Jesus of Nazareth and his Gospel, what are the adequate and God-pleasing “means” and ways of acting, which the true messenger of God is to employ to further the cause of God? Does not the way Muhammad opted for, namely, political and military means in furthering the cause of Islam, need to be viewed as objectively irreconcilable with the life, example and teaching of the non-violent, suffering “servant of Yahweh”?

from Christian Troll: Book Review for The Tablet


Küng has been quoted as saying: "As a matter of fact, you have deficiencies in all religions, but you have truth in all religions." The word "deficiencies" is a polite way of saying "falsehood" but an honest dialogue must address both the true and the untrue and it must especially focus on those areas where the "truth" of one religion clashes with the "truth" of another in a way that does not readily allow for overlap. In the case of Christianity and Islam, there are two especially hot spots: the mystery of the trinity and the very factuality of Jesus' crucifixion, letting alone its meaning.

I have tried to look into the first issue in some of my recent posts (under Trinity). On the second issue, I have considered the "dialogue" possibilities of looking at Rumi's ghazal 728 which compares Jesus with Hallaj. The pertinent lines are as follows:

That idea the Christian carries abroad, the Moslem has not that
idea, that He is slaying this Messiah upon the cross.
Every true lover is like Mansur, they slay themselves; show any
beside the lover who deliberately slays himself!


excerpt from ghazal 728, trans A.J. Arberry


Earlier this year, I offered this possibility to the Catholic priest conducting the course on Mysticism: Islamic and Christian Perspectives but he showed no interest in pursuing it. I'm not sure why it is so but this reluctance to honestly face up to these differences is as evident on the one side as on the other.

So for me, it's: Dialogue, schmialogue. We can go nowhere if appeasement is the only approach used. A war of words must be started, else a war of nuclear weaponry will likely take its place.

Labels: , , , , , ,

Saturday, December 22, 2007

J swastika

Arizona: Jehovah-Job-Jesus-Jihad, made in Inkscape



Jehovah is the original God of the Jews, also rendered as Yahweh.

Job stood up to God and questioned His goodness and justice, indeed his very consciousness.

Jesus was God's response, as He strove toward an enlightened humanism.

Jihad was the backlash, reinstating God's inhuman or animal characteristics, returning Him to his completeness.

The swastika is fluid: it can be manipulated this way or that, to align with evil forces as happened under Nazi Germany or to align with a flow toward a greater light on the world, as I've tried to convey above.


Labels: , , , ,